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Diana and I finished reading Shadow’s Edge by Brent Weeks, and we wanted to discuss as much as we could about it because so much happens within this book. This is our conversation from Twitter.

*As a reminder, we’re both doing giveaways for this trilogy. If you haven’t entered already, you can do so on our introduction post.

**The following may contain spoilers for The Way of Shadows and Shadow’s Edge.

Bookish Talk

{Diana} So, what did you think of Shadow’s Edge? Was it all you’d hoped it would be and more? 😉
{Heather} Yes, but now I want even more from Beyond the Shadows! After the ending in Shadow’s Edge, I need to find out what happens next.
{Diana} Oh, girl, me too! And that ending!!! GAH! Mind = Blown.
{Heather} Yes! I did a little dance when I finished. I was so excited!
{Diana} Ha! I bet you were! That was a pretty fantastic surprise. I’m dying to know what it all means 🙂
{Heather} I can’t wait to find out where it leads. Oh and especially everything with Logan! I wonder what’s going to happen to him in the next book?
{Diana} He’s going to punch Terah Graesin in the face and take his throne back, that’s what. Or, at least I hope that’s what he does, LOL! Like you, I’m super intrigued about the Wolf. Who is he and what in the world is he up to?!
{Heather} Logan better punch Terah in the face or I’m going to jump in the book and do it myself, haha. And, I know! The Wolf is so strange, and that note at the end really made me not trust him as much as I did.
{Diana} Right? I feel like we should have known better though. It seems like everyone has their own agenda or ulterior motive for EVERYTHING that they do. At this point I’m not entirely sure we can trust anyone. Except for Logan. . .I hope.
{Heather} That’s so true. Everyone is up to something. Logan better not betray us. I don’t think I’ll be able to get over that if he does.
{Diana} You know what’s funny? I was looking back at all of our chats, and not once did either of us say that Kylar was our favorite character. Why do you think that is?
{Heather} Hmm, that’s really interesting. I know I really like him though. Maybe, for me, it’s because he grew a lot in the first book, but in Shadow’s Edge he seemed to regress when he was with Elene. Maybe I just really can’t stand her, but I didn’t like what she did to him. I wanted him to not change just for her. What do you think?
{Diana} I actually agree with you. While Kylar is definitely, like, the driving force of this story and while I really do like him, I feel like he kind of devolved in this book. I largely blame it on that manipulative cow Elene, but I also think it has something to do with the loss of his mentor and, therefore, a loss of direction and/or purpose. I don’t think he knew what to do with himself once he was in charge of his own destiny and ended up making some pretty sketchy decisions because of it *cough* Retribution *cough*. I’m glad he got his act together though and I’m interested to see how the developments at the end change him, because I’m pretty sure they will.
{Heather} I completely agree. Without his mentor, Kylar just seemed a bit lost and didn’t know what he really wanted to do with his life. I feel like he became even more attached to Elene because she was someone in his past and he didn’t want to lose her. I wanted to smack Kylar so hard during the Retribution scene. I was like “you crazy, boy!” haha! Yeah, I’m ready for some more development from Kylar. I can’t wait to see how the third book will go for him.
{Diana} Okay, we’ve established that while we both liked Kylar, he didn’t quite do it for us this time around. Who was your fave character overall? I’ll be surprised if we don’t have the same answer 😉
{Heather} Haha I would have to say Logan! He’s just such an awesome character. Who was yours?
{Diana} Ha! I knew it! He’s my favorite too! He went through some pretty horrific things in this book but still managed to grow SO much. I have high hopes for his continued development in Beyond the Shadows—-so that probably means Weeks is going to kill him off :/ LOL
{Heather} Brent Weeks better not! I don’t know if my little heart can handle that. I know I would be extremely upset and be in a reading slump for the rest of the year, haha.
{Diana} Alright, flipside—who was your least favorite character overall?
{Heather} Oh gosh, it’s so hard to pick one least favorite character. There were so many for me, but I would have to say overall, the Godking was the worst. After all he did and all of the “decorations” in his bedroom, he was purely evil and power hungry. There were no redeeming qualities about him. My other least favorites were, of course, Elene, Terah, Fin, and Hu Gibbet.
{Diana} Man, I almost forgot about the bedroom decorations. That was. . .disturbing. He definitely is evil incarnate and the worst kind of bad guy, but my least favorite character was definitely Terah Graesin. She made me so FURIOUS. I literally didn’t know what to do with my anger for what she did to both Kylar and Logan. Especially Logan. If Weeks kills off anyone in the next book, I hope it’s her. And I hope it’s gruesome.
{Heather} Terah was just plain awful. I completely agree with you about how she should be killed, haha. She doesn’t deserve a fast or easy death.
{Diana} Out of all of the surprises that Weeks threw our way, what surprised you the most?
{Heather} The one thing that surprised me the most would have to be the note at the end. I really didn’t see that coming, and I just stared at the book for a long time in shock. I was so happy, and I didn’t think that would happen at all. What part surprised you the most?
{Diana} The same 🙂 I couldn’t believe my eyes—I had to read it, like, three times before it sank in! LOL. I was also pretty surprised by that whole Vi-Kylar-Earring thing and I’m dying to know how all that’s going to work itself out.
{Heather} Yes, as soon as Vi looked at the earrings, I was like do it! This would wreck Elene’s day, haha.
{Diana} Bahahahaha! That’s funny 🙂 So we’ve talked about what shocked us the most, but what was your favorite part of the book in general?
{Heather} *This will be a spoiler* I would probably say when Logan gets out of the Hole. I waited so long for it, and at first I thought Brent Weeks would get him out of the Hole only to kill him from infection, haha. I was so happy when that didn’t happen. What about yours?
{Diana} I was super happy when that happened too, but my favorite part is actually twofold: first I LOVED Logan’s speech before the last battle, and second I loved what happened after the last battle. You know, all the chanting. Look out Terah Graesin, the true King will rise! Lol 🙂
{Heather} I was chanting with them! Terah just needs to leave forever and never come back. She would be a terrible leader.
Logan is just so amazing! Every scene he was in was great, haha. His speech was fantastic, and I loved what he did for the women who had to become prostitutes to survive. He gave them so much hope, and he didn’t even have to do that.
{Diana} Oh gosh, I felt so bad for those women. Especially when they were rejected by their men at first after all they did to survive. What those women did on The Nocte Hemata was truly spectacular and it was so awesome for Logan to recognize them for it. He’s the best 😀
{Heather} Exactly! They did so much, and I really felt they deserved all the recognition. I can’t wait to see more of Logan! haha.
{Diana} Okay, so other than the very obvious, what plot thread are you looking forward to seeing the conclusion of the most?
{Heather} I want to see what happens with Vi. I mean after the earring incident, I want to see where all that puts her in the third book. Elene is another character that I want to see what’s going on with her. Mostly to watch her suffer, haha. While we are at it, I want to see Terah suffer too. Oh gosh, this just turned very dark. 😀
{Diana} Ha! Maybe just a little, but I’m right there with you 😉
I’m super curious about the whole Dorian-Jenine plotline. Especially because Logan and Jenine kind of have a thing going on. And of course I want to know about all things Logan. And the great earring debacle. And ALL THE THINGS. I’m ready for Book 3!!!
{Heather} I forgot about the Dorian/Jenine thing! That was really interesting when that happened. It was kind of cute when Dorian was talking about it. I wonder how Logan will take it when he finds out. I’m so ready for book 3 too! 😀
{Diana} Yay! Let’s do this!!!
{Heather} YES!

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This is the final part for Shadow’s Edge. So many things happen in this section! Diana and I will be starting Beyond the Shadows next.

*As a reminder, we’re both doing giveaways for this trilogy. If you haven’t entered already, you can do so on our introduction post.

**The following may contain spoilers for The Way of Shadows and Shadow’s Edge.

 

Did anything surprise you in this section?

{Diana} THE END. Really, everything in the last 100 pages or so, but HOLY COW, THAT ENDING!!! Brent Weeks is a evil genius and I bow down to him in reverence.

{Heather} I completely agree with Diana. The ending was a huge surprise! I was so excited that I squealed. I’m ready for the next book. *Grabby hands*

 

Who was your favorite character in this section?

{Diana} Like Heather, I liked Lilly a lot in the last section, but her part in the final battle of this book really cemented my admiration of her. Her loyalty to Logan is unwavering and that totally makes her a winner in my book 😉

{Heather} I definitely agree with Diana about Lilly. I would have to say Vi for this section. She’s really growing on me as a character, and I like where she’s headed. I can’t wait to see more from her.

 

Who was your least favorite character?

{Diana} Move over Elene, there’s a new biatch in town—Terah Graesin. OMG, I hate her SO MUCH. So, so much. Like, I was screaming at the book in public because of her. I seriously hope she dies a horrible, horrible death.

{Heather} Diana and I are very synced up with these questions. I can’t stand Terah Graesin! I thought Elene was bad, but no Terah had to prove me wrong. Why does she have to be so awful? I really hope she meets a ferali . . .

 

What was your favorite quote or passage?

{Diana} My favorite quote in this section comes from Logan as he addresses the masses on the eve of the last battle. I’m not gonna lie, it kind of gave me chills.

“Let me tell you what I learned in the Hole. I learned that in suffering, we find the true measure of our strength. I learned that a man can be a coward one day and a hero the next. I learned that I’m not as good a man as I thought I was. But the most important thing is this: I learned that though it cost me dearly, I can change. I learned that what has been broken can be made new. Do you know who taught me that? A prostitute. In a bitter woman who made her living in shame, I found honor, courage, and loyalty. She inspired me and she saved me.”

*slow claps* King Gyre! King Gyre! King Gyre! Ahem. What?! It’s not like you didn’t know that I’m Team Logan all the way 😉

{Heather} Besides the amazing speech Logan gives, my other favorite quote is when Momma K is talking to Kylar about showing a certain character compassion.

“What did Durzo teach you, Kylar?” Momma K asked. “A wetboy is a knife. Is the guilt the knife’s or the hand’s?”

“Both, and damn Durzo for his lies.”

I won’t say who they are talking about, but I thought this quote really did justice for him/her. Momma K is asking Kylar if it’s the killers fault for the murder or the person who hired the killer. I find this really interesting considering Kylar’s past, and I think it puts the whole thing in perspective because it’s not just one person’s fault when a wetboy kills someone. That person shouldn’t be the only one held responsible when two parties were involved in the murder. This quote just really stuck out to me, and I liked it.

 

What do you think will happen next?

{Diana} I literally have no predictions for what will happen in Beyond the Shadows. Weeks has already shown that he’s not afraid to make terrible things happen and that he’s most definitely a fan of high shock value, AND I’ve already had people warn me about the craziness that is the next book, soooooo I’ve got nothing. I really hope that something truly horrendous befalls Terah Graesin though. *crosses fingers*

{Heather} I’m not entirely sure but I hope Logan can take his place as King without someone *cough* Graesin *cough* trying to take it from him. I want to know more about the Wolf character. He is too mysterious, and I feel like he’s up to something. Chad keeps hinting at the third book being even better, but I’m not sure I can handle all of the twists. These books are just so good!

Part three of our Shadow’s Edge buddy read. Next week, we will be finishing this book and moving on to book three, Beyond the Shadows, in April.

*As a reminder, we’re both doing giveaways for this trilogy. If you haven’t entered already, you can do so on our introduction post.

**The following may contain spoilers for the first book, The Way of Shadows.

 

Did anything surprise you in this section?

{Diana} Only everything that happened in the Hole! And that’s A LOT of stuff, let me tell you! I may have yelled at the book a lot in this section.

{Heather} Everything in the Hole definitely surprised me too. I wasn’t expecting things to go that way. Hu Gibbet’s part was also a big surprise to me. I really want to tell everybody what happened, but I can’t spoil it. Go read the book now!

 

Who was your favorite character in this section?

{Diana} Since I was pretty preoccupied with the goings-on taking place in the Hole, my favorite character this go ’round is definitely Gnasher. The big guy was so protective of Logan that it’s hard not to love him.

{Heather} I have to say Lilly was my favorite this round. Her actions in the hole for this section were very selfless, and I really liked what she did for Logan. So much stuff happens in the Hole.

 

Who was your least favorite character?

{Diana} Fin. Fin, Fin, Fin, a thousand times FIN. I hate that guy. I yelled a lot because of that guy. I was extremely happy when that guy got what was coming to him. EXTREMELY happy.

{Heather} I’ll definitely agree with Diana on Fin, but I also didn’t like Gorkhy. He is such an awful person, and when it’s revealed how truly horrible he is, I wanted something terrible to happen to him.

 

What was your favorite quote or passage?

{Diana} I’m sorry, but it’s about to get a tad bit spoilery. The passage that I like doesn’t really give away any major plot points, but it does kind of allude to them, so you’ve been warned.

“You’ll doom us all,” Agon said. “You have the kind of power I’d die for, and you won’t use it to help us. Damn you.” . . .
“I know it doesn’t make sense,” [Kylar] said. “But I swore to leave this behind me. I broke that vow for Logan. That cost me Elene’s love and Uly’s trust. I didn’t abandon them so I could steal another life, but so I could save a life. Do you understand?”

I liked this quote because it showcases Kylar’s honor. That may sound strange because he admits to breaking vows and whatnot, but Agon and Momma K have just offered him the motherload of all wetboy jobs, and instead he chooses to use his powers for good to save a friend who may or may not be alive. It’s like, yeah, he’s made some sacrifices, but he’s gonna be darn sure that whatever he does next will be worthy of those sacrifices. Does that make sense?

{Heather} My quote will also be a bit spoilery. I’ll just say it’s a character talking to Kylar.

The man smiled wolfishly at him. “You are nothing but a fat, awkward child in the land of giants. You close your mouth instead of eating. You speak when you should listen. What are you for? Any answer I gave you’d reject. So why should I waste my time? You’re as arrogant as your master ever was, and you don’t have a shred of his wisdom. I find you wanting.”

“What am I supposed to do?”

“Better. Do better.”

I really like this quote because it helps put Kylar in his place for this scene. I like Kylar’s character, but he still needs to grow in some areas, especially when it comes to his powers. He’s only just beginning to understand everything, but he acts as if he already knows everything. I can’t wait to see more interaction between Kylar and this character.

 

What do you think will happen next?

{Diana} I haven’t got a clue, but I really want to know what’s going on with Elene (even though I still hate her) and Uly and Feir and Curouch and Jenine and Dorian and Solon. . . and the list goes on and on. Weeks seriously owes us some answers before the end of this book. LOTS of answers.

{Heather} Deaths. Lots of death. I’m pretty much waiting for the rest of the cast to die. Brent Weeks is not afraid to kill off his characters. I try not to get too attached to anyone for fear they will die.

This is part two of our Shadow’s Edge buddy read. We’re almost halfway through now and everything is getting intense. If you missed part one, you can find it here.

*As a reminder, we’re both doing giveaways for this trilogy. If you haven’t entered already, you can do so on our introduction post.

**The following may contain spoilers for the first book, The Way of Shadows.

Did anything surprise you in this section?

{Diana} I think the more appropriate question would be, “What didn’t surprise me in this section?” There was that thing with Dorian and the weave, that thing with Kylar and Retribution (which made me question Kylar’s sanity, BTW), who Tenser really was, that time with Logan and the pointy thing, and THAT THING WITH JARL. So, yeah. Plenty of surprises 😉

{Heather} I completely agree with Diana on this one. Everything was a mess, haha. In this section, everything started to build tension, and the story took quite a few turns I wasn’t expecting. The whole thing with Jarl really surprised me. I was not prepared for that scene at all. Brent Weeks, what are you doing to us?!

Who was your favorite character in this section?

{Diana} I’m gonna have to go with Logan this time. I’m fascinated by his character growth and how he’s handling everything that he’s been through. I also really liked General/Commander/Whatever-He-Is Agon. He’s just SO honorable and, like, one of the only characters that you can trust. I think.

{Heather} I would have to say Jarl for this section. He was really owning his role and taking charge. It’s really interesting to see how he’s changed since the start of the trilogy. My second favorite character would have to be Elene . . . just kidding (See next question).

Who was your least favorite character?

{Diana} ELENE. Gah! I just want to shake her! I STRONGLY dislike how she’s trying to change and, dare I say, manipulate Kylar. Yes, he loves her, and yes, he decided to give up the biz for her, but can’t she see what it’s doing to him??? Having him fight his nature and potentially break a vow that he made to her and OTHER STUPID THINGS THAT MADE ME YELL AT MY BOOK LIKE A CRAZY PERSON IS HURTING HIM. Ahem. She’s smothering him and I don’t like it, not one bit.

{Heather} Elene for sure! I hope she develops more in the rest of the trilogy because I really don’t like her now. I don’t hate her . . . no, I’m pretty sure I hate her. I can’t stand what she does to Kylar and how she acts superior to him. Whenever I read a chapter with her in it, I mentally check out because I want to smack her so much.

What was your favorite quote or passage?

{Diana} There’s a part where Momma K and Agon are talking about their strategies for the rebellion, which somehow leads to them talking about their shared history and how (*POSSIBLE SPOILER*) even if he wanted to be with her he couldn’t because there’s a chance that his wife might still be alive somewhere and how he couldn’t betray her as long as that chance was still alive, so could she please help him to resist his attraction to her (“her” being Momma K). First of all, I love how noble Agon is, and second of all (and finally getting to the point) I loved this exchange at the end of their conversation:

“You’ve chosen a hard road,” she said.
“Not a road, a battle. Sometimes life is our battlefield. We must do what we know to do, not what we want to do.”

Can I get a “TRUTH”? I feel like this rings true not only in real life, but also for the majority of characters in this book.

{Heather} Uly has been through a lot in her life, and I really like how this quote gives her more depth. It’s a reminder that children can suffer just as much as adults, and it makes it even worse when they become victims.

If anyone thought children couldn’t suffer pain as deeply as adults, Kylar wished they could see Uly’s eyes now. For all he loved her, he’d been treating her as a child rather than as a human being.

I enjoy this whole scene with Uly because it also shows that she still has some innocence left even after everything she’s been through. It shows more about the relationship between her and Kylar and how close they’ve become.

What do you think will happen next?

{Diana} Honestly, I’ve stopped trying to figure it out—I’m usually wrong anyway! But, I think we’re about to head into some serious chaos. Things are definitely picking up steam and I’m pretty sure it’s all about to hit the proverbial fan 😉

{Heather} I’m pretty sure some people are going to die. No idea who, but I wouldn’t be upset if it was Elene.